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Message 10921 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 6:58:28 UTC

I see that 4.82 is in the wild.....any feedback on how well it matches the requested run times?
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Message 10931 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 14:12:30 UTC
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My first one ran 2:26 hours with a requested 4 hour run. I set the 4 hour limit yesterday so both the server and client know about the 4 hour request.

Out of my sample size of one I guess that perhaps the result duration factor (2.0 on this machine) may have influenced the time. It'll probably take few WUs to get the time close.
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Message 10932 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 14:24:50 UTC

Keep in mind that the program is doing a set of structures. After each structure it decides if it can do another without going too far over the requested time. On a fast machine (that takes 10 minutes per structure), it will probably be within 5 minutes of the requested time. On an old celeron that takes several hours per structure it can be way off.
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Message 10934 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 16:25:37 UTC - in response to Message 10932.  
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Keep in mind that the program is doing a set of structures. After each structure it decides if it can do another without going too far over the requested time. On a fast machine (that takes 10 minutes per structure), it will probably be within 5 minutes of the requested time. On an old celeron that takes several hours per structure it can be way off.


Also any change to the time setting will not translate to the computer unless (until) you update the project or the system reports in by itself. You can adjust the time for work units that are in progress or already downloaded into your queue by changing the settings in you preferences and manually updating. This of course assumes you have the new appllication already loaded.

The info above on the accuracy of the time is correct. On a slow machine the actuaal run time may be off by as much as 30-40 min. But all the WUs will be within the same range. One other point. You can easily force your machine into EDF mode if you download a lot of work units and then set you time too large. It is also possible to download a lot of WUs then adjust the time to a point where they cannot possibly finish within the reporting time deadline. So you may want to let you queue drain and then set the time if you plan on running workunits for long periods of time.

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Message 10938 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 17:03:45 UTC

For those of us where broadband internet access means connectivity isn't a problem, are there any benefits or disadvantages to setting the default 8 down to 2 hours?
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Message 10940 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 17:10:31 UTC
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No real disadvantage. We prefer the default but do what you like. Shorter work units make our server work harder but it should be able to handle it. edit: there may be some issues that Moderator9 explains below. I did increase the expiration to two weeks and also the rsc_fpops_bound.
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Message 10942 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 17:20:40 UTC

Couple questions:
a) How does one change the time of the runs? b) Does it help to do so?
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Message 10943 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 17:24:54 UTC

a) go to your Account Prefs page and Change the ROSETTA prefs....
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Message 10944 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 17:33:21 UTC - in response to Message 10943.  

a) go to your Account Prefs page and Change the ROSETTA prefs....

And change which?
Resource share
If you participate in multiple BOINC projects, this is the proportion of your resources used by Rosetta@home	10
Percentage of CPU time used for graphics	not selected
Number of frames per second for graphics	not selected
Target CPU run time	not selected
Miscellaneous
Should Rosetta@home send you email newsletters?	yes
Should Rosetta@home show your computers on its web site?	yes
Default computer location	home

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Message 10946 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 17:39:27 UTC - in response to Message 10944.  

a) go to your Account Prefs page and Change the ROSETTA prefs....

And change which?


I think it is:

Target CPU run time
(not selected defaults to 8 hours)
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Message 10950 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 18:06:46 UTC
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There's an issue with the graphics, the graphs for energy and RMSD don't seem to update properly, it's like their stuck, hard to describe/explain
this affects all my units
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Message 10951 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 18:21:06 UTC - in response to Message 10946.  
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a) go to your Account Prefs page and Change the ROSETTA prefs....

And change which?


I think it is:

Target CPU run time
(not selected defaults to 8 hours)


This Question is in the Rosetta FAQ list
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Message 10955 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 18:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 10950.  

There's an issue with the graphics, the graphs for energy and RMSD don't seem to update properly, it's like their stuck, hard to describe/explain
this affects all my units



Easy answer.....don't run graphics, it steals valuable crunching time!
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Message 10956 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 18:50:05 UTC

My first 4.82 unit seemed to be stuck at 1%, but after 3 hours it jumped to 37.71% so it may be ok anyway.


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Message 10957 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 18:58:00 UTC - in response to Message 10951.  

a) go to your Account Prefs page and Change the ROSETTA prefs....

And change which?


I think it is:

Target CPU run time
(not selected defaults to 8 hours)


This Question is in the Rosetta FAQ list


Many thanks.
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Message 10974 - Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 22:11:54 UTC - in response to Message 10955.  

Easy answer.....don't run graphics, it steals valuable crunching time!

oh, i don't, i only look every so often (like once a week) for aesthetic appeal lol

i was just pointing out that there's a bug with them
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Message 10987 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 6:56:03 UTC

Great work guys, seems to work exactly as advertised. I have had one PC set to 2 hours and the other set to 4 hours and both seem to work properly around the time requested...except of course for some really short ones. The big producer in our team with 30 machines, (who had the satellite ISP problem) has returned from WCG with all his machines and so far I have not heard of a problem from him.

Great Work!
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Message 11007 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 16:18:45 UTC

Are there any plans to allow a much finer adjustment for Target CPU time, like adjusting to 1/10s of an hour rather than 2 hours, which is rather coarse?
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Message 11010 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 16:53:25 UTC

Why?
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Message 11011 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 17:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 11010.  
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Why?


Just asking, not complaining. :-)
I'd like to keep a maximum presence in RAH in 3 completed WUs/day, while still allowing a steady 1 Wu/day on EAH, where my current batch of alberts run 3.56hrs to completion. Ideally, I'd set max CPU time to 6.8 hrs, so 3 x 6.8 = 20.4 + 3.56 = 23.96 would work out very neatly.
Why not? Would this change be difficult to implement?

Michael

edit - This rig gets an awful lot of crunching done in 6.8 hours, it was doing the old einstein WUs in < 5 hrs, consistently.

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