Anyone running python jobs on Linux?
Currently without work due to WCG moving and I more or less stopped using Rosetta for some time due to no work every now and then. But now back and figured I'd try these now jobs out.
I setup virtualbox and work is coming in and grabbing a pretty decent amount of memory ;-) All seems fine... However, after some time (it may even succeed in finishing some jobs) it ends up as "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restarting later". This happens on my second experimental semi-broken laptop too. No new tasks is started either.
In this case running Manjaro. Rosetta or WCG jobs have never been a issue before. It's Vbox jobs that is the issue.
Something seems to prevent further use of Vbox.
Atleast I know it's not a ram issue. Got roughly 16GB to spare on main computer. Dynamically adjusted swap. Most often 0 or close to 0.

That's not a Linux problem, I get the same on Windows. I can't remember what I did to stop it, if I even did. I can't even remember if it was Rosetta or LHC or Cosmology.

A workaround is to close the Boinc client and reopen it (you don't need to restart the computer or VB itself). You need to properly exit Boinc Manager from the system tray (or whatever the Linux equivalent is), or exit using it's file menu, and tell it to close tasks when exiting. Give it a while to shut everything down (watch processor and disk usage to make sure), then start it again. This will reset the 1 day timer on retrying those tasks.

You can also try cleaning out the VB environment - although usually you would have an error in Boinc telling you it needs cleaning up. Open the VB manager and locate which jobs correspond to the tasks in Boinc, then delete the rest. They will usually be marked "inaccessible". Delete those.

I might have fixed it by changing the VB version. I know Cosmology hates version 6 so I changed to 5, but I thought Rosetta and LHC worked ok on both. If you change version, make sure you install the extensions for that version.

And make sure you have VB extensions installed, not sure if rosetta uses them, but best to have them there.

Yes...aagb seems to be a task group that gets stuck.

I posted about that in number crunching as did someone else.

Can you assist a totally clueless brother cruncher?

I've looked everywhere I can think of and cannot find that option


Where is it ?

Thanks

Go to your account homepage on the Rosetta website, click on "View" next to "Computers on this account", then click on "Details".

At the bottom, there is a toggle switch headed "VirtualBox VM jobs". If it says "Allow", click it, and you will start getting Pythons once your Boinc Manager communicates with the server.

If you click "Allow" and then "Return to host page", you will see that the toggle now says "Skip" (and clicking it would then stop you getting Pythons).

Well, that was easy

Thanks

Well, that was easy

Thanks

RAH guys like to hide things, so this is a common question.
It's probably logical to put it there, but you would think it would be in project computing preferences.

If you run into trouble completing the task, come over to number crunching. We discuss all the problems there. If you get a task that stalls and it has the first letters of its name being aagb, just abort it.
Windows users are having troubles with these tasks.

I was notified by Einstein@home that there are no projects left for my Rpi 4's. Now I see there are no projects left for them here as I started getting "more memory needed" messages recently when attempting to poll updates, and then confirm with the messages I read here. I made sure to get 3 of them, all 4Gb (the 8Gb was not out when I purchased them), mainly for the use for Rosetta and migrated most of them to add Einstein when projects were low here.

I ran the Pi's because the electricity is negligible and I felt it was for a good cause. Now C19 is rather under control, I see the needs of science have outlived my equipment and they want me to dedicate my GPU's or larger equipment to the cause, using my electricity that makes an impact. Well sorry, those get reserved for crypto, see those when used for that earn $$$ to pay for their use for that. So no hard feelings, I feel that it was a good run but until needed again my 3 lonely little Pi's are shutdown and being moved to other more fruitful projects.

Good luck on future endeavors, email us if you have new projects that can include the ARM group, but until then if it is GPU power you need then I suggest you use the power at hand and grant money and get the super computer that you are so desiring your projects toward, or put it toward lease time. To ignore the smaller parts of the whole is basically a defeat of the goals set forth by the project when it started to begin with, to use any an all resources to band together and solve a common task, not pick and choose which are easier or faster to get the job done.

Until next time........

I was notified by Einstein@home that there are no projects left for my Rpi 4's. Now I see there are no projects left for them here as I started getting "more memory needed" messages recently when attempting to poll updates, and then confirm with the messages I read here. I made sure to get 3 of them, all 4Gb (the 8Gb was not out when I purchased them), mainly for the use for Rosetta and migrated most of them to add Einstein when projects were low here.

I ran the Pi's because the electricity is negligible and I felt it was for a good cause. Now C19 is rather under control, I see the needs of science have outlived my equipment and they want me to dedicate my GPU's or larger equipment to the cause, using my electricity that makes an impact. Well sorry, those get reserved for crypto, see those when used for that earn $$$ to pay for their use for that. So no hard feelings, I feel that it was a good run but until needed again my 3 lonely little Pi's are shutdown and being moved to other more fruitful projects.

Good luck on future endeavors, email us if you have new projects that can include the ARM group, but until then if it is GPU power you need then I suggest you use the power at hand and grant money and get the super computer that you are so desiring your projects toward, or put it toward lease time. To ignore the smaller parts of the whole is basically a defeat of the goals set forth by the project when it started to begin with, to use any an all resources to band together and solve a common task, not pick and choose which are easier or faster to get the job done.

Until next time........

Einstein@Home is handing out Radio Wave tasks to my Android phones, do those not run on Pis? They did have a problem recently where they stopped being handed out for about a week, but they are back.

I've tried crypto, it doesn't even pay for the electricity. You could try Gridcoin, that means you can do work for Boinc and get cash at the same time.

I was notified by Einstein@home that there are no projects left for my Rpi 4's. Now I see there are no projects left for them here as I started getting "more memory needed" messages recently when attempting to poll updates, and then confirm with the messages I read here. I made sure to get 3 of them, all 4Gb (the 8Gb was not out when I purchased them), mainly for the use for Rosetta and migrated most of them to add Einstein when projects were low here.

I ran the Pi's because the electricity is negligible and I felt it was for a good cause. Now C19 is rather under control, I see the needs of science have outlived my equipment and they want me to dedicate my GPU's or larger equipment to the cause, using my electricity that makes an impact. Well sorry, those get reserved for crypto, see those when used for that earn $$$ to pay for their use for that. So no hard feelings, I feel that it was a good run but until needed again my 3 lonely little Pi's are shutdown and being moved to other more fruitful projects.

Good luck on future endeavors, email us if you have new projects that can include the ARM group, but until then if it is GPU power you need then I suggest you use the power at hand and grant money and get the super computer that you are so desiring your projects toward, or put it toward lease time. To ignore the smaller parts of the whole is basically a defeat of the goals set forth by the project when it started to begin with, to use any an all resources to band together and solve a common task, not pick and choose which are easier or faster to get the job done.

Until next time........

Einstein@Home is handing out Radio Wave tasks to my Android phones, do those not run on Pis? They did have a problem recently where they stopped being handed out for about a week, but they are back.

I've tried crypto, it doesn't even pay for the electricity. You could try Gridcoin, that means you can do work for Boinc and get cash at the same time.

Gridcoin is worth: $0.009278. (9/100th of a cent) that is not even a realistic price. And that they want to control your systems. No thanks. My system is used for what I want and to occupy my system with 9/100th of a cent, its not even a remote thought.

Gridcoin is worth: $0.009278. (9/100th of a cent) that is not even a realistic price. And that they want to control your systems. No thanks. My system is used for what I want and to occupy my system with 9/100th of a cent, its not even a remote thought.

I assume you're talking about using a pool. I just gave up on that idea, I couldn't for example turn Python on and off. Instead I now use Gridcoin directly from my wallet. It doesn't control anything. I get paid for any of the Boinc projects that are on their whitelist. The ones not on it I'm free to still use but I get no coins from them. It doesn't pay for the electricity, but I'm paid enough to refund me for my hardware in 1.5 years. So I might aswell take it.

Gridcoin is worth: $0.009278. (9/100th of a cent) that is not even a realistic price. And that they want to control your systems. No thanks. My system is used for what I want and to occupy my system with 9/100th of a cent, its not even a remote thought.

I assume you're talking about using a pool. I just gave up on that idea, I couldn't for example turn Python on and off. Instead I now use Gridcoin directly from my wallet. It doesn't control anything. I get paid for any of the Boinc projects that are on their whitelist. The ones not on it I'm free to still use but I get no coins from them. It doesn't pay for the electricity, but I'm paid enough to refund me for my hardware in 1.5 years. So I might aswell take it.

1.5 years just for the hardware? Well ok.

Gridcoin is worth: $0.009278. (9/100th of a cent) that is not even a realistic price. And that they want to control your systems. No thanks. My system is used for what I want and to occupy my system with 9/100th of a cent, its not even a remote thought.

I assume you're talking about using a pool. I just gave up on that idea, I couldn't for example turn Python on and off. Instead I now use Gridcoin directly from my wallet. It doesn't control anything. I get paid for any of the Boinc projects that are on their whitelist. The ones not on it I'm free to still use but I get no coins from them. It doesn't pay for the electricity, but I'm paid enough to refund me for my hardware in 1.5 years. So I might aswell take it.

1.5 years just for the hardware? Well ok.

Since hardware lasts for more than 1.5 years, that means I'm getting free hardware and then some. And once you've set up Gridcoin, there's no work involved, and I can use Boinc as normal and change settings as I normally would, and get stats as I normally would. Might aswell take a free lunch.

You and your research will have our full support

Bonjour,
Avec le temps, Rosetta est devenu de plus en plus gourmand en ressources, et aussi de plus en plus prétentieux. Même si vous prenez des pauses en envoi de travail, au coût actuel de l'énergie,, je ne peux laisser un pc allumé juste pour attendre votre bon vouloir....
Je vais encore à dater de ce jour, attendre exactement deux semaines (14 jours, pas un de plus) et si je suis toujours, passé ce délai, à attendre votre bon vouloir, c'est à regret que j'irais vers un autre projet.
N'oubliez pas que sans les "petits" pc de monsieur tout le monde, vous n'êtes plus rien.
En vous saluant et en espérant vous voir revenir les pieds sur terre, tout compte fait, c'est Rosetta@home et pas le projet SETI.

You cannot expect work to be available all the time. This work has to be processed by scientists. Sometimes they need our computers, sometimes they don't. You can leave your computer attached to Rosetta and do other projects aswell. I am on quite a few projects that only give me jobs very rarely, like Climate Prediction.

Vous ne pouvez pas vous attendre à ce que du travail soit disponible tout le temps. Ce travail doit être traité par des scientifiques. Parfois, ils ont besoin de nos ordinateurs, parfois non. Vous pouvez laisser votre ordinateur connecté à Rosetta et faire d'autres projets également. Je suis sur pas mal de projets qui ne me donnent que très rarement des emplois, comme Climate Prediction.

Bonjour (c'est comme cela que l'on commence...)
Si vous regardez la date supposé à laquelle j'ai rejoint "rosetta", vous devez vous dire le petit nouveau râle, dommage que cette date n'est pas réelle, je suis le projet rosetta depuis ses premiers pas sur boïnc.
Je suis sur boïnc depuis ses début avec le projet SETI dont je regrette la fin prématurée pour d'obscure raison plus politique et financière qu'autres choses.
Rosetta à "obligé" une montée en puissance par son chemin vers python, et c'est depuis que le travail a été saccadé, et quand un travail n'est pas rentré dans "leur" délai vous recevez une cotation négative. Après quelques cotations négatives vous êtes sanctionné en ne recevant plus de travail pendant une très longue période (ceci sont des faits avérés dont de nombreux utilisateurs se sont d'ailleurs offusqués). Pour ne pas avoir ces mauvaises cotations, il vous faut du matériel au top, mon pc ayant plus de 10 ans et servant uniquement à ma station météo ne sont pas encore remplaçable, loin de cela. L'aide à des projet via boïnc est un moyen de faire profiter de sa puissance de calcul. Le hic, c'est que si cela peut être suffisant pour nombres de projets, il semblerait que l'équipe rosetta ne s'ai pas s'en contenter..
Donc, si il ne font pas ce qui est nécessaire de leur coté, l'avenir sera sans moi, car comme vous le dites, il y a de nombreux projet.
Maintenant, si mon message vous chatouille, rien ne vous oblige à le lire, et encore moins à y répondre..
En vous saluant.

PS: Le bonjour du début et les salutations sont une forme de politesse élémentaire, les personnes de ma génération connaissent cela, vous êtes peut être un peu jeune dés lors pour vouloir faire la leçon, et si vous deviez ne plus être si jeune, alors vous avez un sérieux manque de savoir vivre.

Not everyone is obsessed with politeness, how many posts in this thread do you see with hello and please and thankyou in them? Treat this as the middle of a conversation, not the start of one. I am a polite person and I always thank people where appropriate, and I'm quite surprised you think I'm being rude.

Back to Rosetta, if you're referring to Python, these need a modern processor with AVX capability. At 10 years old your s will probably not have this. I have 8 computers and only 3 of them can do pythons. Occasionally Python goes wrong and those three can get blocked, but you can reset it by clicking a button in your account settings (at the bottom of the page for your computer details). If you mean you're not doing the normal 4.2 Rosettas ion time, I find that hard to believe, as they usually take 8 hours. There's no way you couldn't do those in the 3 day limit. I have 12 year old computers that manage them ok. I have a computer 4 times slower than yours and it's never failed one.



Tout le monde n'est pas obsédé par la politesse, combien de messages dans ce fil voyez-vous avec bonjour et s'il vous plaît et merci? Traitez cela comme le milieu d'une conversation, pas le début d'une. Je suis une personne polie et je remercie toujours les gens le cas échéant, et je suis assez surpris que vous pensiez que je suis impoli. De retour à Rosetta, si vous faites référence à Python, ceux-ci ont besoin d'un processeur moderne avec capacité AVX. À 10 ans, votre enfant n'aura probablement pas cela. J'ai 8 ordinateurs et seulement 3 d'entre eux peuvent faire des pythons. Parfois, Python tourne mal et ces trois peuvent être bloqués, mais vous pouvez le réinitialiser en cliquant sur un bouton dans les paramètres de votre compte (en bas de la page pour les détails de votre ordinateur). Si vous voulez dire que vous ne faites pas le temps d'ion normal de 4,2 Rosettas, je trouve cela difficile à croire, car ils prennent généralement 8 heures. Il n'y a aucun moyen que vous ne puissiez pas les faire dans la limite de 3 jours. J'ai des ordinateurs de 12 ans qui les gèrent bien. J'ai un ordinateur 4 fois plus lent que le vôtre et il n'a jamais échoué.

I think I speak for everyone if we keep these conversations in English. Thank you.

I think I speak for everyone if we keep these conversations in English. Thank you.

It's not difficult for the writer or reader to use google translate. if you install a browser extension, you can highlight text and click "google translate inline" which will automatically detect what language it is and change it to your requested language. there really is no need for you to require everyone to use English, as you can easily translate it yourself.

I think I speak for everyone if we keep these conversations in English. Thank you.

It's not difficult for the writer or reader to use google translate. if you install a browser extension, you can highlight text and click "google translate inline" which will automatically detect what language it is and change it to your requested language. there really is no need for you to require everyone to use English, as you can easily translate it yourself.

If everyone starts to write in their own language this forum be even deader.