Message boards : Number crunching : Downloading Work Units
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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Feb 06 Posts: 15 Credit: 90,668 RAC: 0 |
I have set my connection to 10 days but Rosetta only give me 5-10 units per day, each work unit takes between 2hrs and 3 hrs. How do I get it to download more then 10? - - - - Rusty - - - - ![]() DC-Vault Team Ninja's DC-Vault Click Link Here |
Astro![]() Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
Open the "clientstate.xml" file (located in c:programfilesboinc) copy and paste the values you see for the following (they should be about a dozen lines down from the top):NOTE: do not save the file after opening it - <time_stats> <on_frac>0.982556</on_frac> <connected_frac>0.997521</connected_frac> <active_frac>0.999762</active_frac> <cpu_efficiency>0.676768</cpu_efficiency> How many Rosetta's are in your "work" tab, and what does it "estimate" the completion time to be? tony |
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Open the "clientstate.xml" file (located in c:programfilesboinc) copy and paste the values you see for the following (they should be about a dozen lines down from the top):NOTE: do not save the file after opening it So what you are saying is I need to edit my general pref's? Hope this is the right part you needed [quote-xml file]- <time_stats> <on_frac>0.133622</on_frac> <connected_frac>0.982849</connected_frac> <active_frac>0.999828</active_frac> <cpu_efficiency>0.960982</cpu_efficiency> <last_update>1147990756.625000</last_update> </time_stats> - <net_stats> <bwup>0</bwup> <bwdown>0</bwdown> </net_stats> [/quote] - - - - Rusty - - - - ![]() DC-Vault Team Ninja's DC-Vault Click Link Here |
Astro![]() Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
Hope this is the right part you needed It is the part I needed. See how your percentage ON time is only 13 percent. This is taken into account when requesting work. See Work Buffer in the Wiki. It says: The projects will be contacted in an order that is driven by a number of factors, including: Long Term Debt Resource Share Average Turnaround Time % of time client is on Deadline so it's requesting less because it thinks your puter is ON less. tony |
Astro![]() Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
so it's like saying "hey, give me 10 days worth, but my puter isn't on but 13% of the time, and I expect you to make sure I don't miss a deadline" Actually, it's more like "I only sign on to the internet every ten days, I run my puter 13% of that time, and my deadlines are X, you figure out what I can have downloaded" |
Astro![]() Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
If the ON frac isn't accurate,you can edit it. Exit Boinc (file-exit) NOT the red X. open clientstate.xml in notepad edit that value to read:(or whatever your best estimate is) <on_frac>1.000000</on_frac> Make sure you have 6 digits past the decimal save file exit notepad restart boinc. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Feb 06 Posts: 15 Credit: 90,668 RAC: 0 |
The more units I can have to process, the less times I have to dialup to get more.. I am on dialup and it cost me everytime I dial... So whats the best settings to have? EDIT: and I have edited "client_state.xml" to make it <on_frac>1.000000</on_frac> - - - - Rusty - - - - ![]() DC-Vault Team Ninja's DC-Vault Click Link Here |
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The time setting was invented just for modem people. Figure you can run a single WU for up to 24 hours, I see in the science forum that the WUs just got smaller so that will help your download already. But the trick would be to get 6 WUs and run them each 24 hours. Then you would only have to connect once a week. You will have to play with it to see what setting gives you what you need. I think you can adjust the time setting after you download so you can play with the connect time until you have what you need and then set the time for for processing. |
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At the moment I have 18 units and estimated at 02:43:33 to complete each one, so thats better then before but still only over a days worth of crunching. I dont know much about Rosetta, and dont understand when you have been saying about running a unit for 24 hrs... I onlt started running Rosetta again because of the CASP7 email - - - - Rusty - - - - ![]() DC-Vault Team Ninja's DC-Vault Click Link Here |
Astro![]() Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
Russkris, I looked you up on Boincstats.com. It appears you are or have been signed up to other projects. If it's your intent to run ONLY Rosetta AND you have other projects on the "projects" tab, then I recommend you set the other projects to "Suspended" and "No new work". It's possible the work scheduler is saving some work buffer space for those other projects. Just setting a project to NNW will not stop the LTD from accumulating. IF a project has work available, and you have it set to NNW then the debt will accumulate, if it doesn't have work and is set to NNW then it doesn't accumulate(at least this is the way it works for newer Boinc CC's). There is a small script program which will scrape the LTD values from your Clientstate.xml file and display them. It's called Boinc Debt Viewer, BoincDV. It can be used to "reset" all LTD's if you find that to be an issue. The script is easier than manually searching for and doing it. It's O dark early here, so my brain might not be working well, but aside from the other projects thing I mentioned above, I don't see why you would be stopped from getting a full cache. |
FluffyChicken![]() Send message Joined: 1 Nov 05 Posts: 1260 Credit: 369,635 RAC: 0 |
At the moment I have 18 units and estimated at 02:43:33 to complete each one, so thats better then before but still only over a days worth of crunching. Hi Rusty, At rosetta they've enabled us to select how long we want each task to run, In the Rosetta@Home preferences https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/prefs.php?subset=project You need to set (for the correct location of that computer) the 'Target CPU run time' to 1 day A task will then crunch for ~24hrs, This saves people like me and you on dial-up the frequent connection and given each task is 2MB to 5MB reduces the overall download per day. Then if you set it too say connect ever 4 days, you should get 4 tasks (it may take time to settle out. Also as soon as you set the Target CPU runtime, you'll need to hit the Update button in BoincManager for Rosetta, this then apply the setting and will also apply it to the tasks in the queue. Then ignaore estimated time in boincmanager for a while :-) Team mauisun.org |
AMD_is_logical Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 299 Credit: 31,460,681 RAC: 0 |
At the moment I have 18 units and estimated at 02:43:33 to complete each one, That estimate is just BOINC's guess based on what the last few WUs took. If you set the crunch time to 24 hours then BOINC's guess will still say 02:43:33. When BOINC sees that WUs are now taking 24 hours, then it should eventually adjust its guess to 24 hours. |
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Firstly, I cant thank you all for the amount of help you have provided me. Thank you so much. I am so happy to see the amount of people ready to help with the sillest of questions.. mmciastro - I do run other BOINC projects but what I have done is create a new copy for each project, I installed BOINC and move that 'blank' dir, to a different Hard drive so I have a fresh copy of BOINC, then what I do is copy that 'blank' folder and move it to a central location where I keep all my DC project, and I then proceed to attach a project and I also rename the folder to something like 'Rosetta - BOINC','SETI - BOINC', 'HashClash - BOINC' etc.. This may be a strane way to do it but I can keep track of what BOINC project I am running.. So what I might do now is, set the client to 'no more work' and finish the tasks I have, then edit my preference to reflect all the great advise you people have supplied me, by requesting longer tasks... Say 12hrs and connect every 5 days? Does that sound good? Hopefully by doing this I can get some larger scores of the units I'm doing.. Once again thank you for all your help and support.. Thank you - - - - Rusty - - - - ![]() DC-Vault Team Ninja's DC-Vault Click Link Here |
Astro![]() Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
You do know boinc was designed to meet your requested resource share per project and to handle literally dozens of projects at the same time, don't you? you must really like to micromanage. LOL That's OK. The DCF (duration correction factor) is used in determining how many wu's you'll get. If you set your "cpu run time" preferences from 3 (not selected) to 12, then all work you currently have on hand will try to run around 12 hours. After the very first 12 hour run, your estimated time to comp will immediately jump to match that figure, and will be used when requesting work. What I'm saying is changing after loading up, will change the 2 day cache into a 12 day cache. However, the next time you ask for work, you'll likely just get 3-6 wus. The DCF will always jump to the highest run time, but it only comes down 10% of the difference when you do the work faster than anticipated. This is going to fight what you're trying to do. |
Astro![]() Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
Russkris, you could edit the DCF value to a new lower value, this might trick it into getting more work. something like 0.100000 instead of the value it's at now. This will trick it into thinking you only take 1/10 the anticipated time, but don't come screaming to me if you end up with 60 days worth of work or something. lol |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Feb 06 Posts: 15 Credit: 90,668 RAC: 0 |
Thanks peeps, I have set it to 8hrs and 5 days connection, but now I know how to tweak rosetta, I think I will be happy.. Once again, thanks you for all the time and effort you put into answering me silly questions.. So will longer WU's provide larger scores? - - - - Rusty - - - - ![]() DC-Vault Team Ninja's DC-Vault Click Link Here |
![]() Send message Joined: 19 Sep 05 Posts: 403 Credit: 537,991 RAC: 0 |
As you se here more seconds = more credit. :) 9,845.13 sec 20.83 credit 2,843.28 sec 6.02 credit Anders n ![]() |
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wicked, thanks dude... Looks like it orked, I got heaps of WU's now :D - - - - Rusty - - - - ![]() DC-Vault Team Ninja's DC-Vault Click Link Here |
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