U NEED TO MAKE IT EASIER TO GET NEW WORK FOR EACH HOST WHEN RUNNING MORE THAN 1....(NOT NETWORKED)

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Do you have any suggestions? I mean let me ask you this way... if you had one host that was on the net that was going to get all of the work... how are you planning (or presently?) to get the WUs to the non-network PCs?

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That part is your responsibility

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That part is your responsibility

Jim, please define your pronouns. Are you saying it is Rick's responsibility to get work out to the corners of the not networked? Or are you trying to imply that it is my "responsibility" to devise a solution from a one sentence problem definition?

If the latter, then you need to be aware that I'm just a Rosetta participant like everyone else. The only difference is I attempt to offer what help I can without being on the "inside" of the project team. As such, I'm trying to get a more clear description out of Rick, such that someone might actually be able to take action to help the situation. Because as it stands now, without more details, I don't think much can be done. And if one attempted to do something, there's a really really high chance it doesn't meet Rick's needs, because he's not given sufficient detail on what the problem is, nor what solution he sees would be possible to implement.

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That part is your responsibility

Jim, please define your pronouns. Are you saying it is Rick's responsibility to get work out to the corners of the not networked? Or are you trying to imply that it is my "responsibility" to devise a solution from a one sentence problem definition?

If the latter, then you need to be aware that I'm just a Rosetta participant like everyone else. The only difference is I attempt to offer what help I can without being on the "inside" of the project team. As such, I'm trying to get a more clear description out of Rick, such that someone might actually be able to take action to help the situation. Because as it stands now, without more details, I don't think much can be done. And if one attempted to do something, there's a really really high chance it doesn't meet Rick's needs, because he's not given sufficient detail on what the problem is, nor what solution he sees would be possible to implement.

I think Jim K means it is Rick's responsibility. If you read this FAQ you will see why.

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I think Jim K means it is Rick's responsibility. If you read this FAQ you will see why.

Well, the FAQ is related to current functionality. Rick has posted to the "wish list", so he's hoping for something better. It's just not entirely clear what his environment is. I mean is it a networked PC that's not allowed internet? Or does he dial up from a LAN internet attached PC directly to one that's not on the LAN? Or VPN?

The basic question I have for Rick is, once you get Rosetta to give you a WU for this PC, how will you get the WU installed on that PC?

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....The basic question I have for Rick is, once you get Rosetta to give you a WU for this PC, how will you get the WU installed on that PC?

Unless BOINC has a function of doing that, it is an unsupported function. That was the point of the FAQ.

There are no plans currently to put that into BOINC. One reason is simple. It would be impossible to keep statistics if a work unit is not processed by the machine to which it was issued. This subject was discueed in detail some time ago.

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....The basic question I have for Rick is, once you get Rosetta to give you a WU for this PC, how will you get the WU installed on that PC?

Unless BOINC has a function of doing that, it is an unsupported function. That was the point of the FAQ.

There are no plans currently to put that into BOINC. One reason is simple. It would be impossible to keep statistics if a work unit is not processed by the machine to which it was issued. This subject was discueed in detail some time ago.

Well i'd have a functionality like this on my wishlist too.
I have 2 machines not connected at all; they could well do some work while idling....

in old SETI@home there was the method of transferring certain files to a specific folder on the other machine where they would be recognised by the other machines client, then processed..., a "result-file" written to this folder was to be transferred back to the networked/online machine -again to the respective specific folder where the online machines client would recognize it and upload it together with its own "result-files".

I would gladly use any means of offline datatransfer method like FlashMemory/CD/(Floppy)Disk

dealing with statistics: the client gathers all data and keeps track of them - also on the offline machine, I suppose?! Why can't these data be stored in the result file and be processed on the server?
From my little p.o.v. I cant see such a big difference, whether this statistics/meta-data are transferred to the server on a distinct connection or in a file to be extracted
- this distraction of statistical data could also be done by the client itself..
("whoops, this WU was'nt processed by me - lets have a look, who has. OK. close connection, connect as >offline machine<, transfer machine data, send result, close connect, reconnect as >me< ")

well of course I'm not envolved in support an d development of BOINC-Client, but thats yust what I think about - there may be design needs adverse to this...

I'll have a look for the "discussion in detail some time ago"
greetings
Andreas