David, how's it going with the CASP due?

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Message 21202 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 9:44:14 UTC

Hi David,
on July 15 you asked the crunching community to increase the CPU % devoted to R@H for a couple of weeks, since a lot of CASPs were due in a short time.
Since the 2 weeks are coming to an end, I would like to know whether R@H will (likely) meet the delivery deadline for those CASPs.
By the way, could you notice any increase in resources devoted to R@H?

Apart from them, a small poll:
- Did you (crucnchers) read DB's request? (I did ;)
- Did you actually increase R@H resource share? to what extent? (I prevented all other BOINC-projects from getting new tasks).

That's all folks!
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Message 21222 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 14:54:07 UTC - in response to Message 21202.  

Based on the credit issued last 24hrs (as seen in boincstats, and on the homepage), they didn't much of a boost. But if they've stopped granting credit to fictitious credit claims, perhaps we now have a truer representation of the amount of work being done. And the number is about the same, so perhaps there was an increase that just happened to mirror the reduction resulting from the sticter credit policy.

I for one was nearly 100% Rosetta already. But I suspended my climate WUs for three weeks here. They'll crunch later.
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Message 21227 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 15:30:59 UTC
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The tasks that do not crunch Rosetta on my boxes are :

- 3 computers @work where BOINC 5.x cannot satisfy the authentication of the Squid proxy. They run 4.19 which makes Rosetta WUs crash immediately (I tried it when I signed up, not lately though)

- two very slow CPDN HadCM3 tasks (P3s/1266 and 1/4th of a 2*Xeon 2200). If I would pause those, they would never make it in time

So ~70% are about the most I could do


p.s.: I had seen the request quoted in the SETI.Germany forum, not here as I didn't visit the entry page so often.
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Message 21249 - Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 21:49:18 UTC

Yes, I did see the request........orignially from a team member in our team forum, then saw it on the R@H main page........

I increased to 100% Rosetta on my home computer for the remainder of the CASP,(used to not run Rosetta at all).... and got my parents PC started in crunching Rosetta 100 % too......

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Message 21254 - Posted: 27 Jul 2006, 7:28:24 UTC - in response to Message 21202.  

[quote]Hi David,
on July 15 you asked the crunching community to increase the CPU % devoted to R@H for a couple of weeks, since a lot of CASPs were due in a short time.
Since the 2 weeks are coming to an end, I would like to know whether R@H will (likely) meet the delivery deadline for those CASPs.

we aren't able to do as much sampling as we would have liked, but we will certainly submit predictions for all targets!




By the way, could you notice any increase in resources devoted to R@H?

I don't think the credits per day increased much. but the summer heat probably brought numbers down from what they would have been otherwise.


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Message 21255 - Posted: 27 Jul 2006, 8:08:32 UTC

There's been a power crunch out west and in the Northeast. The storm that rolled through Missouri and Illinois last Friday left many without power and is not fully restored. I suspect that these power issues have brought down the numbers.
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Message 21274 - Posted: 27 Jul 2006, 17:25:22 UTC

Have been aware of DB's request on July 18th, and since that time my 4 Athlon Dual Cores are working exclusively for Rosetta and crunching about 60 WUs per day - that's all I can do. Hope it helps Rosetta and her fine team :-)
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Message 21283 - Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 1:24:44 UTC

Since I saw the request I have done 100% Rosetta. Two weeks is a pretty reasonable request and I like BOINC flexibility to do things like that. I assume this Friday evening the need will have passed and I can resume regular BOINCing. If this is not the case, someone let me know.

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Message 21284 - Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 2:06:55 UTC - in response to Message 21283.  

Since I saw the request I have done 100% Rosetta. Two weeks is a pretty reasonable request and I like BOINC flexibility to do things like that. I assume this Friday evening the need will have passed and I can resume regular BOINCing. If this is not the case, someone let me know.



It looks like the last targets are due on 8/7. However, by that time they'll be working on a half dozen proteins rather than many dozen. If you can max it until then you'll be doing the most you can for casp7, but your help for the past two weeks really helped during the 'crunch' period!
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Message 21290 - Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 6:08:11 UTC
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T0377 seems to have gotten lost :

http://www2.predictioncenter.org/stats7.html#BAKER-ROSETTADOM

T0336, T0284 have no entries yet either (but probably they are already late)

p.s.: T0377 is a cancelled one, not lost
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Message 21297 - Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 8:21:59 UTC

David,

I would have to agree that the weather is a culprit for the nominal increase. I live in the midwest and have noticed a heat wave as well as some severe storms come in the past week . I have stopped running my comp 24/7 because it makes no sense to run the air conditioning and the cpu at the same time......
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Message 21381 - Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 16:23:53 UTC

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Message 21382 - Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 16:36:21 UTC

Just a quick. (By the way nice graph) While the team numbers look really good, my recent visit to BOINK Stats showed 19% participants belonging to teams and 81% paricipants not belonging to any team. I don't know if these numbers are based on total users or active users. It would be nice to see a graph on how our non-team members are doing. Hopefully they're trending in the same direction.
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Message 21383 - Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 16:44:15 UTC
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Acording to BOINCstats, PY 222 had an outage but he seems to return now. Maybe problems with natural desasters in his area? He has a huge amount of boxes on hand so any change of his output will be visible in the total stats.

It would be interesting to see how the decoys/day are evolving.

The credits dropped when several boxes with hand-edited benchmark results have been eliminated, which did influence the credits but not the results. Some people even returned to Rosetta when they have been told about this step.
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Message 21386 - Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 17:53:47 UTC - in response to Message 21383.  

Acording to BOINCstats, PY 222 had an outage but he seems to return now. Maybe problems with natural desasters in his area? He has a huge amount of boxes on hand so any change of his output will be visible in the total stats.

It would be interesting to see how the decoys/day are evolving.

The credits dropped when several boxes with hand-edited benchmark results have been eliminated, which did influence the credits but not the results. Some people even returned to Rosetta when they have been told about this step.


The world wide climate and weather has conspired against some of the top individual crunchers and some of the teams. Heat: extreme heat , Natural disasters and all kind of climatological havocks have forced the shutting down of many computers.

I believe it it is a testament to the dedication of teams and individuals to Rosetta that there is an increase (albeit a small one) in production.
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Message 21404 - Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 1:56:05 UTC

CASP 8 should not start earlier than september 2008. :)
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Message 21410 - Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 6:33:33 UTC - in response to Message 21404.  

CASP 8 should not start earlier than september 2008. :)


Ypu have brought a good point. I think we crunchers should send a nice letter to Dr Baker asking him to please ask the people that organize CASP to run it during cool winter months.
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Message 21420 - Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 11:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 21284.  

It looks like the last targets are due on 8/7. However, by that time they'll be working on a half dozen proteins rather than many dozen. If you can max it until then you'll be doing the most you can for casp7, but your help for the past two weeks really helped during the 'crunch' period!

If you are under pressure to reach your goals in the CASP7 final - I'll have no problems to crunch WUs with a shortened deadline of 3 days

Love, Michi
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