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Message 23674 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 12:44:45 UTC

Another silly newbie question...

I keep reading about the new "dual core" cpu's, some of which you can put two to a motherboard...

And supposedly in 2007, "quad core" cpu's, which I also believe can be doubled on a motherboard.

Will such new technology really allow me to run eight "instances" of Rosetta? Will this produce eight times as much "work"?

Just something I've been wondering about....
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Message 23675 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 12:50:13 UTC

Yes, that's exactly it.
I have two workunits running in parallel even on this machine (and it's only a P4 with hyperthreading).

So 4 cores mean 4 concurrent workunits :) Mmmmmm credit!

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Message 23677 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 12:55:59 UTC

BP.....

Yes, I have a dual processor a D930 and you get twice as much work, the Conroe`s are even better apparently and you also have the dual core AMD`s.

Yes there are motherboards where you can fit 2 x dual core so effectively get 4 machines worth of work. Most of these new CPU`s take less power to run so you get more for your buck in the long run. Quad cores are coming and bigger beyond them too. Effectively in 5 years you maybe able to crunch 32 times in one machine with less power than you`re using now.
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Message 23678 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 12:57:29 UTC

Yep each core of a cpu is given it's own wu and is effectively recognised as a seperate cpu. If you look at the number 1 spot for XS_Vietnam Soldiers (I don't know if that's changed now) you will see it says 4 cpus when in fact it is a quad core cpu (4 cores on one wafer) HT is also recognised as a seperate cpu and given it's own wu aswell so often dual xeon boxes are recognised as 4 cpu's.

There are projects outside of BOINC...
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Message 23679 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 13:00:56 UTC - in response to Message 23677.  

BP.....

Quad cores are coming and bigger beyond them too. Effectively in 5 years you maybe able to crunch 32 times in one machine with less power than you`re using now.


There is something so inherently sick about that... :P
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Message 23684 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 13:06:22 UTC - in response to Message 23674.  

I'm liking the sound of all this!!!

One box eventually being able to do 8x the work, and using less energy! Beats trying to find cheap pc's on eBay to add to what I have. Worth the money to go "bleeding edge"...

So, assuming that at least "some" Rosetta crunchers will also go "bleeding edge", then it is feasible to at least quadruple Rosetta's current ~ 30 tflops?
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Message 23685 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 13:08:07 UTC
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I stumbled on an old bill for a P 166 I had shop bought in 1996, I remember at the time being so excited at being one of the fastest around for just under £2000 complete...£2000 that is sick...boy do I wish I had it now ;-)

BP....We have groups that are expert in the field of bleeding edge, XS being one, there are others. Ask and I`m sure they will help.
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Message 23723 - Posted: 20 Aug 2006, 14:56:10 UTC

Dual-cpu, quad-core, hyper-threading = 16 threads. However, Hyperthreading doesn't really act as two cpus, it just lets a second thread use whatever the first thread isn't using in the same physical architechture. So its not quite 2, but should help a bit. Haven't run any benchmarks myself though.

Yeah, the new technology coming out looks mighty fine indeed!
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