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Message 24274 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 14:32:44 UTC

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On the credits front: we have decided to use the average amount of time for producing a structure over all rosetta@home runs for a particular work unit to determine the amount of credit to be awarded for each structure produced for that work unit. so, for example, let us suppose that all rosetta@home computers on average took 1 hour to make 1 structure for a given work unit, and that this corresponds on average to 10 credits using the standard boinc accounting scheme. Then each computer gets 10 credits for each structure returned--a fast computer might be able to do 3 structures in an hour, and get 30 credits per hour, wheras my old slow laptop may require 2 hours to make a single structure so I would only get 5 credits per hour. I think everybody will be happy with this approach in the end, even though nobody may be very happy with it initially (I must emphasize that, contrary to some statements on the boards, no individuals or groups had any more influence on our strategy than any other, so I hope this issue can be laid to rest). I am sorry that the switch to the new system has generated so much conflict, I really didn't anticipate this, and I'm sorry that my attempts to calm things down only made things worse (again, I will post from now on only in this thread and only in this forum). In any event, we are quite set on the new credits plan, which we think will be better for everybody, and please hold off on comments or suggestions for two weeks or so until we all have a clear picture of how things are working--we do not need or want new suggestions at this point. David Kim will be posting the definitive description of the new system tomorrow on the boards.

A positive outcome of the recent animated discussions is that we have recruited a number of new moderator volunteers who will be introduced soon and who will be ensuring that the boards stay friendly (please help the project out by avoiding posting things likely to offend other participants!). Also, as I'm pretty much tapped out on corresponding with participants by emai (which could easily turn into a full time occupation!), after tonight if you have issues please contact the moderators via the boards or email and they will pass unresolved issues on to me.

OK--thats enough of this topic, my posts will be back on the new science discoveries track starting tomorrow!
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Message 24277 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 14:50:36 UTC

If you haven't already, you may want to subscribe to several threads with project updates. Subscribing to a thread causes an EMail to be sent to you which notifies you any time a post is added to the thread, and gives you a direct link to it to make it easy to bring it up.
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Message 24278 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 14:52:40 UTC

Link to his whole message which includes some great science news:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/forum_thread.php?id=1177
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Message 24279 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 14:58:56 UTC

The only reason I put this on is because I think there are some (?) like me who do not visit Science as it goes over my head. So quite often I`ll miss something in Dr. Bakers thread that IS pertinent to me.

I apologise in advance to those who do visit and knew all this already !
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Message 24301 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 18:36:02 UTC - in response to Message 24279.  

The only reason I put this on is because I think there are some (?) like me who do not visit Science as it goes over my head. So quite often I`ll miss something in Dr. Bakers thread that IS pertinent to me.

I apologise in advance to those who do visit and knew all this already !


Thanks Carl you helped me.
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Message 24302 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 18:49:11 UTC

ditto, thanks carl. I'd have never seen it. :)
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Message 24306 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 19:07:21 UTC

hope some individuals around here get banned.....
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Message 24307 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 19:11:33 UTC

Much appreciated, Carl. I do go to the Science forum, occasionally, and managed to somehow miss that one (hadn't had my coffee, yet)!
"There are obviously many things which we do not understand, and may never be able to."
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Message 24309 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 19:52:41 UTC

Maybe if he is only going to post in that thread, I think it would be much better to put it as a blog on the homepage. Preferably with an RSS feed as well.
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Message 24310 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 20:02:57 UTC
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There's a link to the journal under "About" on the home page. [edit] Here is the RSS feed for Rosetta@home: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rss_main.php [/edit]
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Message 24318 - Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 23:06:51 UTC

Hopefully when the post Casp work is finished.. and he gets the HIV work setup and delegated, David Baker can find more free time and return to the pre-Casp level of involvement in the message boards.
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Message 24359 - Posted: 23 Aug 2006, 14:15:47 UTC - in response to Message 24310.  

There's a link to the journal under "About" on the home page. [edit] Here is the RSS feed for Rosetta@home: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rss_main.php [/edit]


That is just the news feed. Not a Journal feed.


(maybe someone up with the dev team could get RSS feed's into the forums so we can subscribe to a thread feed or similar ?
Hey it would be even better to have them in the manager as well)
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Message 24388 - Posted: 23 Aug 2006, 16:41:59 UTC

I read somewhere that BOINC is doing some work on adding RSS feeds. Not sure what all they have in mind.
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