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Message 26914 - Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 3:27:07 UTC
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I got 2 people at work to at least check out Rosetta@home. However, both changed their minds when they could not get their CPU to stop running a full 100% full time. They feel it is abusing their PCs. We know it's okay, provided one takes care of their PC. But people have their own beliefs, and are entitled to them. A PC running at 50%, or even 10%, is better than no PC at all. Not having that option is "turning people off". At least, that's my take. I'm aware of Thread Master, but it is not designed for the average user. Thank you for your time.
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Message 26934 - Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 7:45:34 UTC

The 5.6.x client that should be out soon will allow the CPU to be throttled.
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Message 26951 - Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 13:53:45 UTC - in response to Message 26934.  

Thank you for the reply, Keck Komputers. Perhaps I'll be able to coax them into trying it again when they will be able to "tone it down" and not "wear out" their PCs... These are their beliefs, not mine! I'm no computer expert, and can't convince them otherwise.
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Message 26984 - Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 20:03:51 UTC - in response to Message 26951.  
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Thank you for the reply, Keck Komputers. Perhaps I'll be able to coax them into trying it again when they will be able to "tone it down" and not "wear out" their PCs... These are their beliefs, not mine! I'm no computer expert, and can't convince them otherwise.

Well you could always tell them that a CPU can not run any way other than 100% or off, the system idle process just tells you how often the CPU is not doing anything worthwhile. While that is true the "wait" or "noop" instruction is one of the least demanding instructions a CPU can execute and is the main component of the idle loop. Actually the worst thing you can do to a computer, or any solid state device, is turn it on. The temperature change from cold to normal operating levels is the thing most likely to cause failure.
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Message 27122 - Posted: 17 Sep 2006, 12:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 26984.  

I could try. But I can almost guarantee you that I'll just get a polite version of "Yeah, uhuh. Whatever you say."! Thanks for the help.
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Message 27323 - Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 16:38:13 UTC

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As a MIS Director for a small school, I have had occasion to run a few PC's. We have had systems running 24/7/365 with only brief periods of power off time (for cleaning purposes), and most of these systems have been running for 5-9 years. We just finished retiring all the Pentium model systems, which were running network services.. DHCP/DNS/TFTP, etc. While hopelessly outdated, these PC's could be expected to run multiple years more without incident or issue.

As stated in the the thread before, the most serious issue with silicon chips is 'infancy mortality' , where weak traces on the chips are subjected to startup currents. As you may not know, resistance increases with heat: Chips take more current when cold. It's like a light bulb.. Leave them burning, they seem to last forever, turn them on and off and they will burn out when being turned on. Now, this is not to say that a 100% CPU load won't use more power and produce more heat... It will... It's the only drawback to running a computer 24/7... you have to pay the electric bill.. Even if they left their computers on until they died... , the computer would be so obsolete as to be unsupportable before a third of the run life was used... (I can still support a Pentium system with used parts... not well, but, it can still be done.) By most of performance profiles, most of the 80386 systems we deployed, would still be running if we were so inclined...



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Message 28490 - Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 12:58:00 UTC

bonic manager can be set to run rosetta when the computer is not in use. a time can be set to run rosetta say 15 min or what ever after you stop using your mouse and it can be set to stop working on rosetta when you move your mouse or when the compurer detects your using the computer and you can set it to use any percent of the cpu you want...use>>>>>>>>boinc manager
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Message 28527 - Posted: 26 Sep 2006, 4:48:50 UTC

Jim, the % shown in BOINC manager is the "resource share". This means of the time your machine spends crunching BOINC stuff... how much of that should go to Rosetta? The original question was about running at less then 100% of CPU.

The new BOINC version will be the best way. You can also schedule hours of day for BOINC to run, so you could run it from 20:00 all night to 07:00 if that is when people aren't using the machine.

Also, while awaiting the new BOINC version, you could use an add-on called ThreadMaster. It can be used to limit the CPU usage of the machine.
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Message 28539 - Posted: 26 Sep 2006, 11:18:33 UTC - in response to Message 28527.  

Jim, the % shown in BOINC manager is the "resource share". This means of the time your machine spends crunching BOINC stuff... how much of that should go to Rosetta? The original question was about running at less then 100% of CPU.

The new BOINC version will be the best way. You can also schedule hours of day for BOINC to run, so you could run it from 20:00 all night to 07:00 if that is when people aren't using the machine.

Also, while awaiting the new BOINC version, you could use an add-on called ThreadMaster. It can be used to limit the CPU usage of the machine.

ok thanks i got a lot to learn
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