You can also check your numbers if you go to the Projects tab of the Boinc Manager and click on a project and then click properties, down at the very bottom of the screen will be the correction factor, that is also important.

That must be a rosie thing. It doesnt show on Einstein or Milky.

No it should be on all of them.

I don't seem to have a properties button, but I am using an old (but stable) version of BOINC. The properties button may only be available in more recent versions.

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I need to convince some people to be enrolled into R@H, but kind of lacking wise or convincing words to explain the project can you list some nice sentences?

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I need to convince some people to be enrolled into R@H, but kind of lacking wise or convincing words to explain the project can you list some nice sentences?

take some of Dr. Baker's stuff from his journal over on the science board and dumb it down to basic english. like this one:

e got some good news today in an announcement by Vice President Biden:

http://arpa-e.energy.gov/NewsMedia/News/tabid/83/vw/1/ItemID/21/Default.aspx

We were funded to work with three other research groups to develop a completely new pathway for using solar energy to transform CO2 into the large molecules that the world has grown to depend on (fuels, etc)--this if successful could greatly reduce dependence on fossil fuels and contribute to removing CO2 from the atmosphere.

While the large majority of rosetta@home calculations will remain focused on biomedical problems, expect to see from time to time work units relating to design of enzymes for CO2 capture and conversion.

or this one: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1177&nowrap=true#65729

or this one https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1177&nowrap=true#62898

thats for starters, you have to filter through that thread of his to find some stuff in low science talk or plain english talk.

You can also check your numbers if you go to the Projects tab of the Boinc Manager and click on a project and then click properties, down at the very bottom of the screen will be the correction factor, that is also important.

That must be a rosie thing. It doesnt show on Einstein or Milky.

No it should be on all of them.

I don't seem to have a properties button, but I am using an old (but stable) version of BOINC. The properties button may only be available in more recent versions.

Yes I think the option came out in the 6.10.XX versions. There are other options that are in the newer versions too that are helpful to those doing other things on their pc's while Boinc is running, but requires changing the defaults for those of us that want Boinc to run all the time.

i made all my debt numbers to be 0, but einstein still wants to load in new tasks.
any idea where to go to tell einstein to back off?
only getting 1 or 2 rosie units per day or 2 days.

The only other thing I can think of right is the percentage of crunching you assigned it. To change this you go to each Project and change the setting under Your Account, Resource Share and Graphics. Change the default of 100% to less for Einstein and then Rosie should get more work as Boinc tries to keep that percentage over time. I want Malaria, for instance to do more work than PrimeGrid so I keep Malaria at 100% but changed PG to 10%, now Malaria crunches many more units than PG does.

Rosie is at 36.11% share of 4 projects
Ralph is at 27.78% share when he kicks in
Einstein is at 16.67% share
Milkyway is at 19.44% share

So I don't get it....
Maybe things will settle after the back log of old stuff gets cleared out.
Right now its still Rosie 1 task and Einstein 3 for the same download period.
Will wait and see if things settle by friday. I am burning 4 Einstein tasks at a time right now. Got some milkyway stuff to work through as well.

How long is an Einstein unit taking? How about a Rosie unit? If the Einstein units are taking substantially less time that could account for the numbers.

The gravity wave tasks are 5 to 5:45 hrs typically.
The radio telescope tasks run in about 1hr
Milkyway which does not have that much % on my system has what appears to be 10hr tasks.

I am piling up quite a bit of 5hr gravity wave stuff.
It looks like about 32 tasks by Einstein to 1 Rosie task.

Is there somewhere that Einstein is storing similar information on debt?
I thought you guys said that in the Boinc projects folder if I modified that one file it would take care of this problem?

Might start a thread in number crunching to see what the others recommend.

You can also check your numbers if you go to the Projects tab of the Boinc Manager and click on a project and then click properties, down at the very bottom of the screen will be the correction factor, that is also important.

That must be a rosie thing. It doesnt show on Einstein or Milky.

Okay Greg i just saw this on another project and thought of you and your problems, try this:
"When i was running boinc 6.10.58 i had all my machines not getting work from almost all projects while there was no reason for it.
So i downloaded the older 6.10.56 after i installed on those machines almost all instantly run with new units, except one machine so i took version 6.10.18 which still can be downloaded and poof same result the machine ran again.

But after 2 weeks that same machine stopped again the reason was the debt was too high so i solved it by clearing the debt with boincdv ( this requires some knowledge where is what) and is not allways the best solution.

But most easy is to open notepad.exe or any other real text editor (not word or such)
Put the following text into the editor :

Change the cc_config.xml to look like this :
<cc_config>

<log_flags>
</log_flags>

<options>
<zero_debts>1</zero_debts>

</options>
</cc_config>

And then save it to your data path for your boinc program

In many cases something like c:programdataboincdata you did give this map when you installed boinc reinstall boinc if your not sure anymore.
When reinstall it asks where to put the program and where to save the data."

FIRST check to see if you have a cc-config.xml file and if you do just add the lines under options, if you do not you will have to Stop Boinc and exit it then do as the article says and then restart Boinc again afterwards.

i made all my debt numbers to be 0, but einstein still wants to load in new tasks.
any idea where to go to tell einstein to back off?
only getting 1 or 2 rosie units per day or 2 days.

The only other thing I can think of right is the percentage of crunching you assigned it. To change this you go to each Project and change the setting under Your Account, Resource Share and Graphics. Change the default of 100% to less for Einstein and then Rosie should get more work as Boinc tries to keep that percentage over time. I want Malaria, for instance to do more work than PrimeGrid so I keep Malaria at 100% but changed PG to 10%, now Malaria crunches many more units than PG does.

Rosie is at 36.11% share of 4 projects
Ralph is at 27.78% share when he kicks in
Einstein is at 16.67% share
Milkyway is at 19.44% share

So I don't get it....
Maybe things will settle after the back log of old stuff gets cleared out.
Right now its still Rosie 1 task and Einstein 3 for the same download period.
Will wait and see if things settle by friday. I am burning 4 Einstein tasks at a time right now. Got some milkyway stuff to work through as well.

How long is an Einstein unit taking? How about a Rosie unit? If the Einstein units are taking substantially less time that could account for the numbers.

The gravity wave tasks are 5 to 5:45 hrs typically.
The radio telescope tasks run in about 1hr
Milkyway which does not have that much % on my system has what appears to be 10hr tasks.

I am piling up quite a bit of 5hr gravity wave stuff.
It looks like about 32 tasks by Einstein to 1 Rosie task.

Is there somewhere that Einstein is storing similar information on debt?
I thought you guys said that in the Boinc projects folder if I modified that one file it would take care of this problem?

Might start a thread in number crunching to see what the others recommend.

You can also check your numbers if you go to the Projects tab of the Boinc Manager and click on a project and then click properties, down at the very bottom of the screen will be the correction factor, that is also important.

That must be a rosie thing. It doesnt show on Einstein or Milky.

Okay Greg i just saw this on another project and thought of you and your problems, try this:
"When i was running boinc 6.10.58 i had all my machines not getting work from almost all projects while there was no reason for it.
So i downloaded the older 6.10.56 after i installed on those machines almost all instantly run with new units, except one machine so i took version 6.10.18 which still can be downloaded and poof same result the machine ran again.

But after 2 weeks that same machine stopped again the reason was the debt was too high so i solved it by clearing the debt with boincdv ( this requires some knowledge where is what) and is not allways the best solution.

But most easy is to open notepad.exe or any other real text editor (not word or such)
Put the following text into the editor :

Change the cc_config.xml to look like this :
<cc_config>

<log_flags>
</log_flags>

<options>
<zero_debts>1</zero_debts>

</options>
</cc_config>

And then save it to your data path for your boinc program

In many cases something like c:programdataboincdata you did give this map when you installed boinc reinstall boinc if your not sure anymore.
When reinstall it asks where to put the program and where to save the data."

FIRST check to see if you have a cc-config.xml file and if you do just add the lines under options, if you do not you will have to Stop Boinc and exit it then do as the article says and then restart Boinc again afterwards.

I'll look into that later. rosie is up to 3 tasks on my machine now after i killed/aborted the radio telescope tasks of einstein and raised my buffer back to 7 days. so i think rosie will get back to normal after the einstein work i have in the queue clears out. I also got milky way, but that project is behaving.

i made all my debt numbers to be 0, but einstein still wants to load in new tasks.
any idea where to go to tell einstein to back off?
only getting 1 or 2 rosie units per day or 2 days.

The only other thing I can think of right is the percentage of crunching you assigned it. To change this you go to each Project and change the setting under Your Account, Resource Share and Graphics. Change the default of 100% to less for Einstein and then Rosie should get more work as Boinc tries to keep that percentage over time. I want Malaria, for instance to do more work than PrimeGrid so I keep Malaria at 100% but changed PG to 10%, now Malaria crunches many more units than PG does.

Rosie is at 36.11% share of 4 projects
Ralph is at 27.78% share when he kicks in
Einstein is at 16.67% share
Milkyway is at 19.44% share

So I don't get it....
Maybe things will settle after the back log of old stuff gets cleared out.
Right now its still Rosie 1 task and Einstein 3 for the same download period.
Will wait and see if things settle by friday. I am burning 4 Einstein tasks at a time right now. Got some milkyway stuff to work through as well.

How long is an Einstein unit taking? How about a Rosie unit? If the Einstein units are taking substantially less time that could account for the numbers.

The gravity wave tasks are 5 to 5:45 hrs typically.
The radio telescope tasks run in about 1hr
Milkyway which does not have that much % on my system has what appears to be 10hr tasks.

I am piling up quite a bit of 5hr gravity wave stuff.
It looks like about 32 tasks by Einstein to 1 Rosie task.

Is there somewhere that Einstein is storing similar information on debt?
I thought you guys said that in the Boinc projects folder if I modified that one file it would take care of this problem?

Might start a thread in number crunching to see what the others recommend.

You can also check your numbers if you go to the Projects tab of the Boinc Manager and click on a project and then click properties, down at the very bottom of the screen will be the correction factor, that is also important.

That must be a rosie thing. It doesnt show on Einstein or Milky.

Okay Greg i just saw this on another project and thought of you and your problems, try this:
"When i was running boinc 6.10.58 i had all my machines not getting work from almost all projects while there was no reason for it.
So i downloaded the older 6.10.56 after i installed on those machines almost all instantly run with new units, except one machine so i took version 6.10.18 which still can be downloaded and poof same result the machine ran again.

But after 2 weeks that same machine stopped again the reason was the debt was too high so i solved it by clearing the debt with boincdv ( this requires some knowledge where is what) and is not allways the best solution.

But most easy is to open notepad.exe or any other real text editor (not word or such)
Put the following text into the editor :

Change the cc_config.xml to look like this :
<cc_config>

<log_flags>
</log_flags>

<options>
<zero_debts>1</zero_debts>

</options>
</cc_config>

And then save it to your data path for your boinc program

In many cases something like c:programdataboincdata you did give this map when you installed boinc reinstall boinc if your not sure anymore.
When reinstall it asks where to put the program and where to save the data."

FIRST check to see if you have a cc-config.xml file and if you do just add the lines under options, if you do not you will have to Stop Boinc and exit it then do as the article says and then restart Boinc again afterwards.

I'll look into that later. rosie is up to 3 tasks on my machine now after i killed/aborted the radio telescope tasks of einstein and raised my buffer back to 7 days. so i think rosie will get back to normal after the einstein work i have in the queue clears out. I also got milky way, but that project is behaving.

i made all my debt numbers to be 0, but einstein still wants to load in new tasks.
any idea where to go to tell einstein to back off?
only getting 1 or 2 rosie units per day or 2 days.

The only other thing I can think of right is the percentage of crunching you assigned it. To change this you go to each Project and change the setting under Your Account, Resource Share and Graphics. Change the default of 100% to less for Einstein and then Rosie should get more work as Boinc tries to keep that percentage over time. I want Malaria, for instance to do more work than PrimeGrid so I keep Malaria at 100% but changed PG to 10%, now Malaria crunches many more units than PG does.

Rosie is at 36.11% share of 4 projects
Ralph is at 27.78% share when he kicks in
Einstein is at 16.67% share
Milkyway is at 19.44% share

So I don't get it....
Maybe things will settle after the back log of old stuff gets cleared out.
Right now its still Rosie 1 task and Einstein 3 for the same download period.
Will wait and see if things settle by friday. I am burning 4 Einstein tasks at a time right now. Got some milkyway stuff to work through as well.

How long is an Einstein unit taking? How about a Rosie unit? If the Einstein units are taking substantially less time that could account for the numbers.

The gravity wave tasks are 5 to 5:45 hrs typically.
The radio telescope tasks run in about 1hr
Milkyway which does not have that much % on my system has what appears to be 10hr tasks.

I am piling up quite a bit of 5hr gravity wave stuff.
It looks like about 32 tasks by Einstein to 1 Rosie task.

Is there somewhere that Einstein is storing similar information on debt?
I thought you guys said that in the Boinc projects folder if I modified that one file it would take care of this problem?

Might start a thread in number crunching to see what the others recommend.

You can also check your numbers if you go to the Projects tab of the Boinc Manager and click on a project and then click properties, down at the very bottom of the screen will be the correction factor, that is also important.

That must be a rosie thing. It doesnt show on Einstein or Milky.

Okay Greg i just saw this on another project and thought of you and your problems, try this:
"When i was running boinc 6.10.58 i had all my machines not getting work from almost all projects while there was no reason for it.
So i downloaded the older 6.10.56 after i installed on those machines almost all instantly run with new units, except one machine so i took version 6.10.18 which still can be downloaded and poof same result the machine ran again.

But after 2 weeks that same machine stopped again the reason was the debt was too high so i solved it by clearing the debt with boincdv ( this requires some knowledge where is what) and is not allways the best solution.

But most easy is to open notepad.exe or any other real text editor (not word or such)
Put the following text into the editor :

Change the cc_config.xml to look like this :
<cc_config>

<log_flags>
</log_flags>

<options>
<zero_debts>1</zero_debts>

</options>
</cc_config>

And then save it to your data path for your boinc program

In many cases something like c:programdataboincdata you did give this map when you installed boinc reinstall boinc if your not sure anymore.
When reinstall it asks where to put the program and where to save the data."

FIRST check to see if you have a cc-config.xml file and if you do just add the lines under options, if you do not you will have to Stop Boinc and exit it then do as the article says and then restart Boinc again afterwards.

I'll look into that later. rosie is up to 3 tasks on my machine now after i killed/aborted the radio telescope tasks of einstein and raised my buffer back to 7 days. so i think rosie will get back to normal after the einstein work i have in the queue clears out. I also got milky way, but that project is behaving.

Okay that works, as long as you are crunching it is all that matters. Your Einstein units may get picked up shortly anyway, I am going to take my pc's over there shortly, I made a deal with a friend and now need to honor my end of it.

wow, look at all of those pretty, blue vertical lines... maybe i shouldn't have had so many of those "special" brownies...

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i made all my debt numbers to be 0, but einstein still wants to load in new tasks.
any idea where to go to tell einstein to back off?
only getting 1 or 2 rosie units per day or 2 days.

The only other thing I can think of right is the percentage of crunching you assigned it. To change this you go to each Project and change the setting under Your Account, Resource Share and Graphics. Change the default of 100% to less for Einstein and then Rosie should get more work as Boinc tries to keep that percentage over time. I want Malaria, for instance to do more work than PrimeGrid so I keep Malaria at 100% but changed PG to 10%, now Malaria crunches many more units than PG does.

Rosie is at 36.11% share of 4 projects
Ralph is at 27.78% share when he kicks in
Einstein is at 16.67% share
Milkyway is at 19.44% share

So I don't get it....
Maybe things will settle after the back log of old stuff gets cleared out.
Right now its still Rosie 1 task and Einstein 3 for the same download period.
Will wait and see if things settle by friday. I am burning 4 Einstein tasks at a time right now. Got some milkyway stuff to work through as well.

How long is an Einstein unit taking? How about a Rosie unit? If the Einstein units are taking substantially less time that could account for the numbers.

The gravity wave tasks are 5 to 5:45 hrs typically.
The radio telescope tasks run in about 1hr
Milkyway which does not have that much % on my system has what appears to be 10hr tasks.

I am piling up quite a bit of 5hr gravity wave stuff.
It looks like about 32 tasks by Einstein to 1 Rosie task.

Is there somewhere that Einstein is storing similar information on debt?
I thought you guys said that in the Boinc projects folder if I modified that one file it would take care of this problem?

Might start a thread in number crunching to see what the others recommend.

You can also check your numbers if you go to the Projects tab of the Boinc Manager and click on a project and then click properties, down at the very bottom of the screen will be the correction factor, that is also important.

That must be a rosie thing. It doesnt show on Einstein or Milky.

Okay Greg i just saw this on another project and thought of you and your problems, try this:
"When i was running boinc 6.10.58 i had all my machines not getting work from almost all projects while there was no reason for it.
So i downloaded the older 6.10.56 after i installed on those machines almost all instantly run with new units, except one machine so i took version 6.10.18 which still can be downloaded and poof same result the machine ran again.

But after 2 weeks that same machine stopped again the reason was the debt was too high so i solved it by clearing the debt with boincdv ( this requires some knowledge where is what) and is not allways the best solution.

But most easy is to open notepad.exe or any other real text editor (not word or such)
Put the following text into the editor :

Change the cc_config.xml to look like this :
<cc_config>

<log_flags>
</log_flags>

<options>
<zero_debts>1</zero_debts>

</options>
</cc_config>

And then save it to your data path for your boinc program

In many cases something like c:programdataboincdata you did give this map when you installed boinc reinstall boinc if your not sure anymore.
When reinstall it asks where to put the program and where to save the data."

FIRST check to see if you have a cc-config.xml file and if you do just add the lines under options, if you do not you will have to Stop Boinc and exit it then do as the article says and then restart Boinc again afterwards.

I'll look into that later. rosie is up to 3 tasks on my machine now after i killed/aborted the radio telescope tasks of einstein and raised my buffer back to 7 days. so i think rosie will get back to normal after the einstein work i have in the queue clears out. I also got milky way, but that project is behaving.

Okay that works, as long as you are crunching it is all that matters. Your Einstein units may get picked up shortly anyway, I am going to take my pc's over there shortly, I made a deal with a friend and now need to honor my end of it.

looks like for now its rosie 3 tasks and einstein and milkyway filling in the the rest of the holes.

here's to penguin and his special brownies.

wow, look at all of those pretty, blue vertical lines... maybe i shouldn't have had so many of those "special" brownies...

HEY NO FAIR, I am mostly color blind and would love to get some blue lines on my screen too! YES I CAN see colors, but when they test me I can only read page one of the little book with the numbers embedded in the colors, so they tell me I am 90% color blind.

@mikey: here, have some "brownies", color blind or not, you'll see colors you never knew existed...

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@mikey: here, have some "brownies", color blind or not, you'll see colors you never knew existed...

lol Pengy, thats some 'good' brownie mix you have.

btw, did you find your papers showing the krill you paid to visit the blood suckers for your little visit?

oh, for you DC types, we had a change of plan for vacation. We will be passing through Dulles on Nov 12 and Nov 30. But only 2-2.5 hrs turn around time.
We will be hunting toilets and food when we get in from BRU and clear homeland and customs. Nov 30, there might be some time, but not much as its last call for duty free shopping and such. So probably not much chance of a meet and greet. So again, maybe next year we can pull off a bit of time in DC, so we can do a proper tour of everything. we came on a weekend last time and lots of stuff was closed.

2 hrs? well, you may "find" the toilets, but that doesn't mean with the lines from everyone else arriving, that you'll actually get a chance to use 'em, lol !

doing some "spring cleaning" in fall, and hope to find those papers soon.

yeah, next year, if you can budget at least a day for DC, i'm pretty certain that Mikey as well as M and myself would find a way to catch up with you and D.

unless, of course, M and I are in Antwerp, eating waffles, and singing Julie Andrews in the train station, lol !

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2 hrs? well, you may "find" the toilets, but that doesn't mean with the lines from everyone else arriving, that you'll actually get a chance to use 'em, lol !

doing some "spring cleaning" in fall, and hope to find those papers soon.

yeah, next year, if you can budget at least a day for DC, i'm pretty certain that Mikey as well as M and myself would find a way to catch up with you and D.

unless, of course, M and I are in Antwerp, eating waffles, and singing Julie Andrews in the train station, lol !

I think I can find some time whenever! If not I will make some time!!!!!

And thanks for the 'brownies', didn't help though. I tried some 'special' brownies in the 70's, didn't see any extra colors but got a good case of the munchies!

2 hrs? well, you may "find" the toilets, but that doesn't mean with the lines from everyone else arriving, that you'll actually get a chance to use 'em, lol !

doing some "spring cleaning" in fall, and hope to find those papers soon.

yeah, next year, if you can budget at least a day for DC, i'm pretty certain that Mikey as well as M and myself would find a way to catch up with you and D.

unless, of course, M and I are in Antwerp, eating waffles, and singing Julie Andrews in the train station, lol !

Yeah Pengy, will see if we can pull that off next year. But if I don't find some work again even temp work pretty soon I won't have much time off again.
I got 2 weeks right now and 3 months to get at least one more week of time built up.

BTW, seems rosie woke up after the mad scientist and the chocolate star project let go. Now am loaded heavy with rosie and ralph stuff. RAC should be climbing back up soon. How can you guys have 0 and 48 RAC? Pengy there something wrong with your stats. You have more credit but less RAC and I have less credit and more RAC. Pretty weird.

been doin' a $#!t10@d of Simap... think they had about 5m wu's, or something crazy like that...

rosie, not so much so, for now...

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thumbs up to our trans-atlantic waffle-eater for "discovering" that my e-mail account was hacked.

wonder if $0ny is retaliating... (just kidding, call off the lawyers)

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thumbs up to our trans-atlantic waffle-eater for "discovering" that my e-mail account was hacked.

wonder if $0ny is retaliating... (just kidding, call off the lawyers)

which made me run a scan of my system and found that a website i had visited for adult purposes left behind a piece of software i did not want. system is cleaned up now.

BTW, seems rosie woke up after the mad scientist and the chocolate star project let go. Now am loaded heavy with rosie and ralph stuff. RAC should be climbing back up soon. How can you guys have 0 and 48 RAC? Pengy there something wrong with your stats. You have more credit but less RAC and I have less credit and more RAC. Pretty weird.

I have zero rac because I have not crunched a Rosie unit in a awhile now, but they let me post here anyway, some projects do, some don't.

I use http://malwarebytes.org/ to fight the spyware and other nasty stuff on machines. I use the free version, which means it must be run manually, but I update and run it about once a month on all of my machines. I also use MSSE, Microsoft Security Essentials, as my anti-virus program. It is also free and seems to work just fine, it updates and runs automatically. I am knocking on wood here now though!!!

I went to a friends house the other day and ran MalwareBytes on their pc's and found over 200 pieces of junk! They run MUCH faster now!!

AOL gives free email accounts to anyone that wants one, I always use one of those when I travel and then stop using it when I am back. And when places ask for an email account and I don't want to give my real one, I just make one up using @aol.com as the ending. There is a place that will rent you an email address for 10 minutes, meaning you can use it for a place like that and then it is closed and no one can steal it, because it no longer exists. http://www.1usemail.com/ and http://public-services.wikispaces.com/Free+Short+Term+Email+Addresses