Message boards : Number crunching : Minirosetta 3.71 for Android
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[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
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David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
The success rate is low for android. Some devices do not like Rosetta and it is likely due to memory issues. I suspect due to heap space limits. If your device has repeated issues with R@h jobs, I would suspend all work. |
Trotador Send message Joined: 30 May 09 Posts: 108 Credit: 291,214,977 RAC: 1 |
Hi What are the memory requirements for android WUs? thanks |
David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
Hi 1gig. But even if you meet the requirements (https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rah_requirements.php), your device may still have issues with Rosetta and I suspect it may be due to various factors depending on the device which may include but may not be limited to: 1. dynamic memory limits 2. job suspension at the android OS level. |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
If your device has repeated issues with R@h jobs, I would suspend all work. 1) If you see my post on Ralph's forum, some wus run ok. 2) I have an "old" Galaxy S3, not a top smartphone. |
Chilean Send message Joined: 16 Oct 05 Posts: 711 Credit: 26,694,507 RAC: 0 |
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[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
Ha! I just checked my hosts and apparently my S5 mini completed a WU during the night while charging. It's not a bad phone. I'm curious about next S7, may be a good crunching machine on Rosetta. I'm also curious about Rasp Pi2 with Android on Rosy, if it crunchs and how |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
One running on a Samsung S4 as we speak. Hopefully it completes before its deadline, which is again pretty short |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
Things have gone wild. Another two! With a reasonable completion date of Tuesday too. Things are looking up. |
Trotador Send message Joined: 30 May 09 Posts: 108 Credit: 291,214,977 RAC: 1 |
I'm crunching android wus in a TV set box, octa core 2 GB RAM, they are going through fairly well in spite the low amount of RAM of the host. Almost all the erros I have are upload errors for the db_design5 units, around 15-20% of them, no idea why only part of them upload failure: <file_xfer_error> <file_name>db_designs5_t6c.1295.7_0001_android_SAVE_ALL_OUT_327271_4214_1_0</file_name> <error_code>-161 (not found)</error_code> </file_xfer_error> The ab_xx_xx__vall units do not have this problem and need less memory |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
Now i'm crunching regularly on my phone. It would be interesting to know the total contribution of android to Rosetta. |
Chilean Send message Joined: 16 Oct 05 Posts: 711 Credit: 26,694,507 RAC: 0 |
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[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
I would guess you'd need to upgrade the BOINC version on the server. This will never happen tho. :-( |
David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
Actually, it could be done more easily on our end. Although there are a lot of registered devices, the actual contribution so far is quite low relative to the standard platforms. There is around a 10x decrease in throughput when comparing ab initio jobs run on android devices vs standard cpus. And there is about a 50-70% success rate vs 95+%. There have been around 10,000 completed android jobs in the last 24 hours vs 210,000+ as a rough estimate. And the jobs that are currently being sent to android devices are centroid only ab initio and small cyclic peptide jobs which require less memory. So far, android throughput is a very small fraction of our total and limited to protocols that are not as memory intense. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
While throughput may be small overall, I'm quite pleased with my own phone's current contribution, however small it is. |
David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
Yes, I'm a little biased but I think it's quite cool and impressive that Rosetta is modeling proteins and peptides on phones! And it should only get better as processing power and memory improve.... |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
Yes, I'm a little biased but I think it's quite cool and impressive that Rosetta is modeling proteins and peptides on phones! And it should only get better as processing power and memory improve... My Samsung S4 is a few generations behind now and I share 2 of 4 cores with WCG and only run while battery level is 70%+ and it's contributing 200 to my current RAC on Rosetta alone - mainly because I have the opportunity to keep my phone charging quite a lot through the day. The regular supply of tasks recently is giving me a nice boost. No complaints here. My S4 |
David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
The Samsung devices seem to be stable running Rosetta compared to some other devices. It would be nice if volunteers running android devices can provide us some input about how Rosetta is or is not running well on their device. For example, device make and specs along with host ID. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
The Samsung devices seem to be stable running Rosetta compared to some other devices. It would be nice if volunteers running android devices can provide us some input about how Rosetta is or is not running well on their device. For example, device make and specs along with host ID. This is me It's always seemed a bit flakey in the past, but the most recent batch of jobs has seemed to run stably and no errors come up at all. I'm guessing I'm benefitting from the changes you described earlier - lower memory req't etc. I imagine this will improve as people upgrade over time. |
Chilean Send message Joined: 16 Oct 05 Posts: 711 Credit: 26,694,507 RAC: 0 |
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